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  JC FILE NOTES - What do they contain?

  by Amazing in

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  jc file notes - what do they contain?

  jones.. 15. brother smith would tell bro.

  smith noted too that bro.

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  Concerning repentance.

  When I was a new elder, it took a lot to convince me of repentance, as the years went by, I soften.
  Along with it(as the years passed) I also didn't really care for the Society's elders hand book either, in fact I never ever refered to it. When ever a fellow elder would open it up (the book) to sorta give his fellow elder some council about proceedure I would feel like the Pharasees(use the Bible not that).

  On repentance again.
  There was a brother(Sullivan I think?) in the service department, that was famous for this saying:
  "If there is an error in judgement let it be on the side of mercy"
  Does anybody recall this?

  I'll defend your right to say it, but it doesn't mean I beleive it.
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  I'm Confessing All! Or Maybe Not.........

  by Englishman in

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  do you think that confessing to misdeeds is a good thing?.

  when i was a jw, i was brought up to believe that confession + genuine repentance = forgiveness.

  now im not so sure that forgiveness is whats always needed.

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  Eman,

  One thing I can say about you, your definetly not dull by any means.
  If I were at a pub your the type of guy I would mind downing a pint or three with.
  I probably just sit and listen.
  You have a very interesting way of veiwing things.

  I'll defend your right to say it, but it doesn't mean I beleive it.
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  Do you have to be part of organized religion?

  by trumind in

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  ok. this is my first thread and i am very interested to see the kinds of responses i get.

  my question to you all is do you beleive you have to be a member of some type of organized religion in order to have god's approval?

  i was raised in jw household, never baptized.

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  trumind,

  No organized religion is in no way nessasary to have a relationship with God.
  That's all Watchtower propaganda.

  I'll defend your right to say it, but it doesn't mean I beleive it.
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  JC FILE NOTES - What do they contain?

  by Amazing in

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  jc file notes - what do they contain?

  jones.. 15. brother smith would tell bro.

  smith noted too that bro.

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  D wiltshire

  My advice never tell the elders anything it can be use against you.

  In Steve Hassans book he clearly brings this out.
  When Cults get info on you it puts them at an advantage.

  When I was DF'd for Apostasy this year one thing the Appeal Committee asked me was: Was I ever brought before a Judicial Committee before to which I answered no this was my first time. (always looking for some damaging information)

  So Don't give them any information you don't want them to use against you, they have absolutly no right to it period.

  I'll defend your right to say it, but it doesn't mean I beleive it.
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  Suicide: Bearing the Burden - Maximus to Jayhawk

  by Eusebius Hieronymus in

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  maximus has requested that i post the following, for jayhawk especially, and for others who are the living victims of the tragic act of suicide.. .

  while all suicides are devastating tragedies, jw suicides are especially hard to bear, depending on the viewpoint of the survivor.

  one person may be shattered, while another merely accepts the possibility of a resurrection of a loved one.

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  Well written for a good purpose.

  Thanks and my sympathys for anyone who has been a surviver.

  I'll defend your right to say it, but it doesn't mean I beleive it.
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  Bethel rules... fables or truth...

  by MrMoe in

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  can you all enlighten me, i have heard certain "bethel rules" and wanted to find out if they are fact or fiction.

  1. only one item on any surface at any time (a phone or lamp etc.. as long as it is just 1 item.).

  2. allowance of $80 a month for toiletries etc... (has that allowance gone up).

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  Going back a few years, but does anyone remember Sophie?

  She was a nurse that would visit you in your room if you were sick.
  She would do and say what ever she could to get you to got to work it didn't seem to matter how sick you looked. She would put you on a guilt trip if you didn't go to work.

  I'll defend your right to say it, but it doesn't mean I beleive it.
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  Lets make a wager You Know?

  by D wiltshire in

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  you know if you can find one prediction that came true that the society made i will mail you one dylan cd of your choice?.

  i don't mean things like their prediction that the 2nd world war would end, because all wars eventually come to an end.. i mean something substancial.. .

  i'll defend your right to say it, but it doesn't mean i beleive it.

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  I'll send the CD to a third party so you name will never be verified.

  I'll defend your right to say it, but it doesn't mean I beleive it.
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  Oz, perhaps?

  by AGuest in

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  freedom allows all opinions and facts to be uncovered.

  letting people air everything helps us understand what the issues truly are.

  sure some are more unprofessional than others but a person willing to understand what is going on will not worry about the "ad hominem" attack or swearing.

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  Shelby,

  Tell JAHESHUA MISCHAJAH to stuff it where the sun don't shine.

  I'll defend your right to say it, but it doesn't mean I beleive it.
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  Well, I have NEVER....

  by AGuest in

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  in all my almost 42 years... received so much attention... good and bad.

  never, i promise you.

  and truly... all ya'll... i am neither 'worthy'... nor 'deserving' of it... good... or bad.. have you all noticed just how many times the name "shelby" has been used in the past, say 24 hours?

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  Logical,

  I put it there for you I hope you read it all.

  I'll defend your right to say it, but it doesn't mean I beleive it.
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  Lets make a wager You Know?

  by D wiltshire in

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  you know if you can find one prediction that came true that the society made i will mail you one dylan cd of your choice?.

  i don't mean things like their prediction that the 2nd world war would end, because all wars eventually come to an end.. i mean something substancial.. .

  i'll defend your right to say it, but it doesn't mean i beleive it.

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  D wiltshire

  I guess YK must have every BD CD.

  I'll defend your right to say it, but it doesn't mean I beleive it.